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		<title>By: Seaderydiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seaderydiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sir.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sir.<br />
I learned something here. Thanks for posting.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Func. Prog. Lang. Ref. &#171; More than a Tweet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Func. Prog. Lang. Ref. &#171; More than a Tweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Update 3 Feb.! I&#8217;m still not ready to learn Haskell, but when I do, I think I&#8217;ll start here and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Update 3 Feb.! I&#8217;m still not ready to learn Haskell, but when I do, I think I&#8217;ll start here and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: intoverflow</title>
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		<dc:creator>intoverflow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steven

I&#039;m pretty sure this is a troll, but for what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;m old enough to be OK with sounding stupid every now and again.

Still, I think you&#039;re overlooking the fact that any reasonable definition of &quot;programmer&quot; and &quot;software engineer&quot; will necessarily share many properties.  Trivial example: both are types of people.  Meaningful example: both are involved in the building of software systems.

My intent was to suggest that my comments were drawing on the common meaning implied by those terms.  If you&#039;re going to bring forward the charge that they don&#039;t -- and that they fail to in such a monumental way as to make me &quot;sound stupid&quot; -- then I think you owe me a more detailed explanation of where the problem is in my argument.

Specifically, what is it about Software Engineers, which cannot be said about programmers, which makes my argument so obviously false?  (Or, if you&#039;re upset about the words &quot;replace&quot; and &quot;compete,&quot; same question.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steven</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure this is a troll, but for what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;m old enough to be OK with sounding stupid every now and again.</p>
<p>Still, I think you&#8217;re overlooking the fact that any reasonable definition of &#8220;programmer&#8221; and &#8220;software engineer&#8221; will necessarily share many properties.  Trivial example: both are types of people.  Meaningful example: both are involved in the building of software systems.</p>
<p>My intent was to suggest that my comments were drawing on the common meaning implied by those terms.  If you&#8217;re going to bring forward the charge that they don&#8217;t &#8212; and that they fail to in such a monumental way as to make me &#8220;sound stupid&#8221; &#8212; then I think you owe me a more detailed explanation of where the problem is in my argument.</p>
<p>Specifically, what is it about Software Engineers, which cannot be said about programmers, which makes my argument so obviously false?  (Or, if you&#8217;re upset about the words &#8220;replace&#8221; and &#8220;compete,&#8221; same question.)</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@intoverflow, Stop pairing software engineers and programmers together and get a clue.

&quot;In each case, if you substitute your suggested language for what I said (ie s/replace/compete, s/programmer/software engineer), I’ll still stand by my claims.&quot;

I know this is mean, but you sound young and stupid.  Sorry, I said it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@intoverflow, Stop pairing software engineers and programmers together and get a clue.</p>
<p>&#8220;In each case, if you substitute your suggested language for what I said (ie s/replace/compete, s/programmer/software engineer), I’ll still stand by my claims.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know this is mean, but you sound young and stupid.  Sorry, I said it!</p>
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		<title>By: Cody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do all my haskell projects in eclipse.... it works fairly well, not to the extent of the support it has for java, but it does a really nice job.

http://eclipsefp.sourceforge.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do all my haskell projects in eclipse&#8230;. it works fairly well, not to the extent of the support it has for java, but it does a really nice job.</p>
<p><a href="http://eclipsefp.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">http://eclipsefp.sourceforge.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>** for Haskell!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>** for Haskell!</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are the IDE&#039;s?!?!  No good ones!?!  Prime time is a no go without  something like Eclipse or Visual Studio!</description>
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		<title>By: Does your IDE define you or support you? &#124; Colin Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Does your IDE define you or support you? &#124; Colin Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the same time, I have been following a discussion about Haskell at Integer Overflow where there has been a bit of a discussion in the comments about there not being an IDE for Haskell [...]</description>
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		<title>By: intoverflow</title>
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		<dc:creator>intoverflow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Josh

There are a few IDEs for Haskell, though I haven&#039;t used any extensively (I generally don&#039;t like using integrated software environments, so I&#039;m not a good person to ask about them :)

My work environment is pretty basic: I use vim, more or less because I know how to use it pretty well.  I generally have GHCi open in another window to make sure that my code loads, and to browse my type definitions, check function signatures, etc.  I also have a tab in my browser open to Hoogle and Hayoo so I can do quick &quot;what was that function called again?&quot; searches.  I&#039;m also generally in #haskell on Freenode in case I run into a tricky situation.

I&#039;d be curious to know what environments everyone else uses!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Josh</p>
<p>There are a few IDEs for Haskell, though I haven&#8217;t used any extensively (I generally don&#8217;t like using integrated software environments, so I&#8217;m not a good person to ask about them :)</p>
<p>My work environment is pretty basic: I use vim, more or less because I know how to use it pretty well.  I generally have GHCi open in another window to make sure that my code loads, and to browse my type definitions, check function signatures, etc.  I also have a tab in my browser open to Hoogle and Hayoo so I can do quick &#8220;what was that function called again?&#8221; searches.  I&#8217;m also generally in #haskell on Freenode in case I run into a tricky situation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be curious to know what environments everyone else uses!</p>
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